The TRUTH About ”420” National Weed Day !


Ever since I read an article about a group of guys named the Waldos claiming to be the originators of 420, I had doubts from the start as something didn’t make sense. Why did they choose 4:20 as the time to meet at the statue and who was the one that first coined the term? This never made any sense to me and I knew something wasn’t right. Suspecting there was a true originator, I began sending out energy for them to contact me for this article. Today was that day.

I received an email from a guy named Brad Bann aka “The Bebe”, claiming to be the Father of 420, saying that it all started in 1970 with a group of guys called “The Bebes”. They lived on a golf course, in a neighborhood called “Peacock Gap” in San Rafael, California.

Bebe says, “The Bebes and the Waldos are still good friends to this day, however it’s time the truth be told.” He goes on to say, “The Waldos were a group of guys I ordained”, referring to Steven Capper as the “Original Waldo”. He went on to explain how the Waldos were a small group of guys he dubbed “Waldos”, because they were goofy. “During the summer of 1970 at San Rafael High School, there were two groups of people involved in bringing forth the term 420, the Bebes and the Waldos. The Bebes beat the Waldos to the punch on nearly every phrase. The Waldos put a story on the Web in 1998, but not the real story. They never mentioned the Bebes because they would have some explaining to do.”

The Bebe and one of the other Bebes named, “Bone Boy”, sent their claim to High Times in 2003, after someone sent them the article they did on 420 and the Waldos. They waited for months, yet never received a reply.

420 Letter From Bone Boy

The Bebe Is The Thomas Edison Of 420

With over 420 million Google results, the morphing of the number 420 into an international phenomenon is fairly baffling to me, an early ’70s graduate of San Rafael High School in Marin County, California.

I’ve been sent numerous stories over the years regarding tracing the beginning of 420. I’ve listened to syndicated radio talk show hosts devote nearly entire shows to 420 on April 20th, heard radio shows celebrate each weekday with a Reggae tune at 4:20, and have seen 420 features on TV. How about the number being a police code, or penal code, or The Who’s 1965 album cover of “My Generation” in front of Big Ben at 4:20, clocks in the film, “Pulp Fiction” set to 4:20, etc… Anyway, I can tell you, as one who has firsthand knowledge of its true origin, that nearly everybody has been had…

It is amazing to me that even sociologists have weighed in with their “expert” 420 viewpoint (and they get paid for this!?) of what it means. “420 creates an intense sense of group belonging among friends, strangers, and crowds” or “a kind of mystical, spiritual, or extraordinary sense of belonging, where the group exists as a reality greater than itself”… What? Way too stoned in Madagascar I’m afraid.

True, the term initiated its international acronymic ascent in the early 1970’s- actually 1970 at San Rafael High School (SRHS). And the notions SRHS alumni left Marin County, taking 420 to the collegiate level, mostly along the West Coast, the I-5 and 101 corridors, and in fact, all the way past Seattle and up to Prudhoe Bay are true as well. I know, I took it to the Arctic Sea with an Arctic 4-twone standing on frozen water. The number also surfaced and spread throughout the Grateful Dead concert community, thanks in large part to the Waldos I’m certain, taking the term east, promoting the newly fabled number on a national scale. Deadheads are a great promotional vehicle, however this is about where the myths end and the truth takes off…

I’m sorry, but the real story is rather short, unimpressive and unimaginative. It is spontaneous though, just like the character who first coined the term, completely by accident, like most things from his youth. Brad Bann aka The Bebe (Beeb – a nickname) about seventeen at the time, is the Father of 420 and many other terms that caught on around the campus of SRHS in the Fall of 1970. Take for instance “Waldos”, used in the current “420 Smokelore”, denoting a group of guys. It was a word originally made up to describe an odd, awkward, out of place person. Its predecessor was “Gome” or “Gomer”, after the TV character, Gomer Pyle and our neighborhood Gomer, Gary “Gomo” Schweitzer. When Bebe didn’t know you, he would call out, “Hey Waldo” or “Hey Gome”. Bebe also had specific nicknames for everyone and everything in our neighborhood: The Blue Boys, Puff, Du, Hello Andy, Turkey, Bone Boy, Thorgy, The Mead, Pig Newton, the Incredible Walking Man, and Bonfiglio (Or Bonfig), a tag he would use to address bearded hippies of the era. There was Dune (pot, taken from the title of a sci-fi novel) and “Alfred”, a term meaning, “To borrow, but never return”. He spawned Jimmy Bardoni, a fictitious name he would use whenever he got into hot water. Bebe not only concocted 420, he labeled the guys who claim to have created it. “The Waldos” (Though they were not the Waldo Father’s of 420) were perhaps the greatest promoters of the number back then. I mention all of this in an attempt to lay a foundation, I suppose, of a history of “Mindless Term Invention” by the Bebe.

Quite simply, the birth of 420 occurred at precisely 4:20 in the afternoon to begin a bedroom bong session at the house of Du and Puff on a Saturday in October of 1970. The Bebe along with the brothers began preparing to “bong out”, when Bebe glanced at the clock on the nightstand and said, “It’s 4:20, time for bong loads”. After getting high, they proceeded to do some audio recording with Bebe, as we did frequently, using his assortment of voices, including his impression of Abraham Lincoln, and said as tape was rolling: “4 score and 20 years ago…” As it turned out, 420 became an instant code in our neighborhood. We gravitated to any and all Bebe terminology he conjured up. 420 seemed to just roll off the tongue better than any other number, 4:19, 2:37, 3:58 etc, and gosh knows we needed a code to use in front of non-stoners, especially for the parental establishment. I remember once Bebe saying, “It’s 420” in front of Hello Andy’s mother, and she responded by saying in a minor panic, “My goodness, it can’t be that late yet, I have to go pick up your sister!” As knucklehead teenagers, I guess we never realized parents were on such prompt time schedules. 420 developed its own lexicon, “Do you have any 4-twone?”, “Who’s got the 4-twone?”, “This is excellent 4-twone” or “420″, and “I’m too 4-twentyed”. Sign language and lip reading also evolved, as well as a hesitation code of sorts, where a person would say 4, then moments later, 2, followed shortly thereafter by a 0. There was the countdown as well 4-2- Zero. Way too stoned: “4-twoned”. It was also used to define certain kinds of weed, “420 Colombo” and “Thai 420” for Thai sticks.

I submit the story just shared is the truth and nothing but the whole 420 truth. 420 was only designated as an actual time at the moment of its inception. It was never intended as a time of day to get high, but evolved into that as well as the coronation of April 20th into the stoner holiday all over the world. It was and will always be, first and foremost, just a simple code, period. 420 is an accidental anomaly. There is no deep meaning. A guy looked at a clock as he was about to “smoke out” with some buddies, blurted out the time, and it became local stoner lore. If Bebe would have said, “It’s twenty minutes after four”, the term probably would have never gotten legs to get out of the bedroom that day. 420 just sounded “Stoner Poetic”.

The Waldos were a real group of guys, ordained by Bebe. One of them, Bebe referred to as the “Original Waldo” I believe. But now it’s time to examine the story. Of the Waldos in 1970, I believe one was a junior, one or two were sophomores and the others freshmen. Two of them I believe lived in the same neighborhood, and the others in different parts of town. One dude’s dad was a DEA agent as I recall.

School finished at about 3pm, for some earlier. Some may have had sports after school, some didn’t. Now, let me get this straight: Guys are going to return an hour and a half after school was dismissed to meet at a statue, get high and go look for pot plants a lengthy drive away? If this is believable, you must be in possession of some excellent 420. Have you ever driven from San Rafael to Pt. Reyes? It’s about an hour each way (without commute traffic). So at 4:20, guys get together at the Louis Pasteur statue in the middle of campus, away from sports fields or gymnasiums, pile into a car and cruise out to Pt. Reyes looking for pot plants based on some map, then return? 4:20 seems kind of late to be driving an hour or so to look for pot plants. Might the sunset have interfered with their ability to find anything? What time did they get home, especially if they indulged in herb and did a bit of wandering out at Point Reyes? Which, by the way is highly likely. Of course they didn’t have any homework.

If they played sports, how could one be sure practice was going to end close to 4:20? It is a reasonable assumption that practice for any sport lasts close to two hours, but wouldn’t the coach be the only one with that information? A meaningful question that should be asked of “The Waldos” is, “Why did you choose 4:20 as the time to meet at the statue as opposed to 4:15 or 4:30?” Seems so implausibly random. And, which of the Waldo’s was the one who first coined the term? One might suggest they chose the time because they gravitated to the Bebe’s new code and turned 420 into their time of day to partake in herb. But even that would be flawed, because they chose 4:20 as a time of day to meet and drive somewhere, not get stoned.

Postmarks on letters is an interesting tool in tracing the beginnings of 420, but I’m sure that if Bebe saved any of his reel to reel tapes of prank phone calls, 420 would no doubt be heard.

I was in Las Vegas with a friend during NCAA March Madness this year. As we were going down the elevator from our hotel room to the lobby, we stopped at several floors acquiring passengers along the way. Most were sporting shirts from their favorite teams. When I asked one young man what time his team played, he replied, “Game starts at 4:20”. Most of the eight other people in the elevator began to chuckle. People from various parts of the country knew exactly what the number represented.

420 is now a brightly colored number in the fabric of Pop Culture. When something enters, then becomes part of Pop Culture, the truth of where that “something” originated demands to be uncovered. That moment for 420 has been “now” for quite some time. How did it come to be? How was it intended to be used? Who first conceived and uttered the term? Who is responsible for creating this iconic three digit number?


It’s a simple truth, really. Brad Bann aka The Bebe is the Thomas Edison of 420.”

The moment of truth. I finally had the answer I’d been seeking and it was time to set the record straight, once and for all.

420 Interviews –

To verify credibility, I began contacting all of The Bebes, gathering information on the story. I confirmed all of their full names and identities, some of which asked to keep secret for personal and/or professional reasons. After interviewing 10 Bebes and hearing all of their stories, it was easy to conclude that there was definitely a hidden truth, that needed to be revealed. Everyone told the exact same story!

Meet Dave Dixon aka Wild Du, one of the Dixon brothers who was there when Bebe coined the term 420. Bebe describes Wild Du as, “a “Core Bebe”, who I sold knife sets to businesses up and down the California Coast with, just out of high school. Him and I started “The 420 Band” in 1972, and still play to this day.” Wild Du says, “I first met Bebe at the neighborhood gathering when we were 15. We went to the brick yard to play and Bebe started throwing bricks and poking holes in the mortar with his fingers, causing a ruckus, which ended up in getting us both arrested.” He went on to say that the Waldos have admitted that the Bebes coined the term 420 to him, just not to the public.

Dave is now 58 years old, still lives in San Rafael, California grinding knives and playing guitar with Bebe.

Then there’s Wild Du’s brother Dan Dixon aka Puff, the other Dixon brother who was there when Bebe coined the term 420. Bebe describes Puff as another “Core Bebe”, saying, “Puff was popular with the Bebes and the Waldos, this is how all the words the Bebes made up, became language that the Waldos ended up using, like 420. Puff and I were in the Army in Germany together and were always seen together during high school.” Puff says, “The Waldos admit that the Bebes coined the term 420, there is no question. They even tried to recruit me, to make their story more credible.”

Dan is now 57 years old and lives in Oklahoma, where he is a retired caregiver for his mother in law. He spent his career as a Basketball Coach, later to become a Pharmacy Tech, providing health care to those in need. He loves football, basketball, golf and 420.

When brothers Wild Du & Puff were asked to recall the exact Saturday in October, 1970, they both remembered puffing in the house with Bebe on those particular weekends and confirm being there when Bebe coined the term, however were unable to pin down the exact day. Wild Du thinks it happened on the first (10/03/70) or second (10/10/70) Saturday of October, because it was the beginning of school.

Tom Thorgersen aka Thorgy was the neighborhood Norwegian weed dealer, who handled all of the Bebe’s 420 needs. Bebe recalls, “Thorgy was the big 420 weed dealer in the 70s & 80s and the Bebes spent a lot of time at Thorgy’s.” Thorgy started smoking at 12 years of age, to calm his hyperactivity. His mom even offered to help him grow it. He shared stories about calling in to radio shows with the Bebe and doing 420 pranks on the air, and listening to the reel to reel audio recordings of Bebe’s version of Abraham Lincoln’s address, “4 Score and 20 Years”. Thorgy says, “Steve Capper is an opportunist who wasn’t even close to making up 420. We made fun of the Waldos, aka “Wallies”, they were the weaker link, the ones who didn’t fit in. It will be nice to finally have the truth be told.”

Tom is now 55 years old and still lives in San Rafael, California. He is a Carpenter with a passion for rebuilding old cars.

Dave Anderson aka Hello Andy was, “The main spokesman for the Bebes, who tried desperately to organize and explain Bebe behavior”, says Bebe. Hello Andy recalls, “Everything Bone Boy said is true. Bebe was always making up nicknames for everyone and spent a lot of time in his bedroom making prank recordings. He was always making weird sounds and was great with voices. One time we made this recording of police calls where Bebe would say stuff like, “One Adam Twelve. We have a 420 on 4th Street. Send 2 units. Over”. He would do things like aiming rocks at a target, looking long and hard at it, then saying something like, “Estimating angle 420″, then throw it. Hello Andy goes on to say, “I lived in between Bebe and Du & Puff, and took part in plenty of bong outs at their house. It’s highly likely that I could have been there at the time he first said it, however there is no question that Bebe certainly coined the term 420, which later became our special code. To be honest with you, I never even considered Steve Capper a Waldo.

Dave is now 57 years old, lives in Sacramento, California and is an Engineer. He likes Golf, sports, music, movies and a little 420 from time to time at a concert or special occasion like the Bebe’s 420 reunion.

Bone Boy was the designated driver, chauffeuring The Bebes around in his Blue 66′ Barracuda, blasting 8-Tracks of Hendrix, Zeppelin, The Who, Santana, Doobie Brothers & more. Bone Boy says, “I never allowed toking out in my car, so we would drive around Marin County looking for scenic places to take the car and get high. Some of our favorite spots were, “The Wall”, “Windless”, Sequoia” and “360″.” Bebe says, “Bone Boy always had transportation and planned events. He was very good in sports, loved music and always had new albums. All the Bebes were good in sports and had very good communication skills. We all used Sonics, a loud piercing noise that Bebes could identify and locate each other, saved our asses more than once.” Bone Boy says, “We would go to Baskin Robbins and Bebe would make this high pitch sonic noise. People would just look around and wonder where it came from. He was always screwing with people, in an odd, fun way.” He goes on to say, “We lived on a golf course surrounded by houses and Bebe was always doing something crazy. One day, he showed up with a golf cart. When we asked where he got it, he said, “Don’t worry, nobody pays attention.” Bone Boy says, “I asked a teacher from San Rafael High School if they remembered The Bebe and he said they used to have staff meetings about Bebe and his pranks, all of the time”.

Bone Boy is now 57 years old, lives in Huntington Beach, CA and is a music industry veteran. He loves film, music, writing, teaching and the great outdoors.

Turkey was from Georgia and spoke differently with a southern twang. Bebe recalls, “He always had to go home early and would say, “my ass is grass”, then run home. He had a mini bike that would go 42.0 mph, some of our first transportation.”

Then there was The Worm, who Bebe says had a prosthetic arm and used to play tackle football with them. “I love that guy, so full of life. He was a real game person, many stories about and with him. He would love to be part of this.”

Blue and The Mead were two anti-social brothers called Blue Boys, who were a few years younger. Bebe says, “Blue Boy” was a term we gave to the younger guys who hung out with us.” Hello Andy recalls, “One time I watched Blue Boys, Blue and Scraun play a prank on the coach. They watched their watches and when the time came, they asked, “Hey coach, what time is it?” He replied, “4:20″ and they all started giggling.”


And finally we come to Brad Bann aka The Bebe. He was known as a prankster back in high school. He loves music, sports, and scientific facts. He still lives in San Rafael, California where he plays guitar and is the lead singer in a band, doing Frank Sinatra covers. When Bebe isn’t playing live gigs, you can still find him in his studio making funny songs and recordings. Today is actually his 58th Birthday. What a perfect time to reveal his hidden truth to the world. Hempy Birthday, Brother Bebe!


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  3. 420 Marijuana Term Waldo Originators Debunk New 420 Claim

    More than a decade ago, a group of fellows called the Waldos from Marin County, California came forward to explain how they created the term “420” as a euphemism for marijuana back in the early 1970’s. Multiple pieces of evidence proving their story were examined by legitimate press and reported by credible news organizations such as The Los Angeles Times, Reuters News, High Times Magazine, ABC News, The New York Times, the San Francisco Chronicle and, most extensively, here in The Huffington Post.

    In October of last year, a web-based marijuana stoners website, 420 Magazine, launched a story about some nebulous and scattered fellows calling themselves the “Bebes”, claiming that they (the Bebes) created 420. The 420 Magazine story is based 100 percent on hearsay, with not one shred of evidence or proof to back anything up, and is filled with numerous absolute, outright lies about the Waldos. The Waldos even hold physical evidence, examined by legitimate press, that helps prove that the Bebes are lying.

    Anybody anywhere can make anything up at any time, especially about things that happened forty plus years ago. We have seen many other groups around the country try to claim and make up things about 420, but nobody anywhere has any proof with scientifically verifiable evidence except us. Nothing the opposing Bebe group says about the Bebes 420 origination claim can be accurately verified. And when the Bebes suggest that there might be evidence to support their stories, the writer of the 420 Magazine article himself discovers (supported by the Bebes own admissions) and unveils that it was all “lost, stolen, and has mysteriously disappeared.” The primary recurring theme throughout the entire 420 Magazine article is that Bebes are notorious pranksters, casting serious doubt on their story and intentions. The vast breadth and depth of detailed, physical-evidence proof supporting the Waldos stories speak for itself as to the true story of origination of the 420 phenomena.

    The Waldos have always told the truth about their adventures, and do have multiple pieces (and growing) of objective, verifiable, physical evidence-proof to help back up their story that they were using the term 420 as a weed reference before anybody else in the world.  These items are all preserved in a bank vault, have been examined by legitimate respectable journalists, and continue to be available for inspection by official Press.

    The Waldos have heard many dozens of theories and stories about 420 from all over America.  We have heard stories from our hometown, from people who knew us from way back when, and local residents who did not know us.  New stories always emerge, and many of the old ones we have heard continually mutate with the addition of time, drugs, dreams and old-fashioned storytelling.  And there is never any evidence or proof to back up these false claims.  More recently we have heard of a group up in Minnesota that claimed they started 420 in the late 60’s, and of another group in San Jose, CA, that claims they used to meet at a Round Table Pizza Parlor at 4:20 in 1969.  The bottom line is anybody can make up any story about anything and put it at any period of time, especially when it was many decades ago.  But you need proof.  That’s like someone saying, “Hey everybody, I was a golf caddy for England’s WWII leader Winston Churchill in the year of 1969!”….  “It’s true because I just said it!”  

    The Waldos stand by our true story of 420 origination about meeting at the Louis Pasteur statue at San Rafael High at 4:20PM during the 1971 school year to smoke and go to Pt. Reyes.  Every question and doubt that has ever been raised by a Mr. Guy Perry (aka Bone Boy) and Bebes about these experiences has been answered.

    For decades, our Waldo story of 420 origination was the only one we ever knew or heard of.  All of the Waldos knew the Bebe earlier in 1970 and none of them ever heard the Bebe say or write the phrase 420 then. The Waldos never used the term 420 before the Louis Pasteur statue meetings and weed hunting journeys. Five of us Waldos NEVER heard Bebes, or anyone else, use the number 420 as a marijuana reference before the Waldos started using it. Brad Bann (aka Bebe) never met with the Waldos at the statue of Louis Pasteur at 4:20 in the fall of 71–he wasn’t on any of the Pt. Reyes weed hunts and did not give the term to the Waldos. As a matter of fact, there is verifiable evidence that Bebe wasn’t even living in San Rafael, CA, and was not going to San Rafael High School during the Fall 71-72 school year when the Waldos first started using the term 420. His parents got divorced and he went off to live with his father in another city.  You won’t see Brad Bann’s name listed in the San Rafael fall 71-72 graduating class list/yearbook.

    The Waldos met at 4:20 for exactly all of the reasons we have discussed in the past:
    The time we got out of school, approximately 3PM.
    Some had after school sports activities that lasted until after 4PM.
    There was just enough time to get back to the statue of Louis Pasteur.
    To smoke and look for the pot fields drawn in a treasure map.

    Mr. Perry’s (aka Bone Boy) “420 Letter from Bone Boy” and his other writings have always made a big deal that the Waldos were leaving for Pt. Reyes Peninsula at 4:20PM, trying to establish some kind of doubt about it.  Everything the Waldos did was not implausible, and is a true story.  Yes, it was a late hour but there was still enough light to look for the pot for some period of time.  Yes, eventually the sunset did interfere with our ability to see.  Yes, we were driving home in the dark.  Yes, some guys did wait around after school was dismissed to return to the statue to meet the guys who were finishing up sports practice.  Yes, the Waldos did have homework and got it done, however, it was a lot less homework in 1971 than teens have these days.  Every one of Mr. Perry’s feeble attempts to establish a lack of credibility falls flat and can be answered.

    When a bunch of teenage Waldo boys are presented with a treasure map of free pot fields to pick grown by U.S. Coast Guard members, it is fully plausible, and was the true reality, that they would want to go and pick it.  It is plausible, and was the reality, that it would be witnessed in the moment as special/remarkable and would be remembered.

    Now lets look at the Bebes’ defining moment of inception.  These Bebe kids were smoking out numerous times a day, and there was nothing at all extraordinary or exceptionally unique about the day or time associated with their supposed inception.  It was just another time,… 3:20 is the same as 4:20 as is the same as 5:20.  There is absolutely no reason to witness it in the moment as a significant event or defining moment of inception.  Nothing odd happening; just another time on the clock when someone says only “it’s 4:20, lets take another bong.”  It is highly implausible that the moment would be remembered then or 40 years later.
    Lets look even closer at all the lies, falsehoods, and untruths in the Bebes unbalanced article.  The flawed article gives a lot of attention and focus to the naming of the Waldos. Contrary to what the article says, the Bebe did NOT name the Waldos and did NOT ordain the Waldos…those are outright absolute lies.  The Waldos were self named because they used to hang out on a “wall” at the San Rafael High School campus.  Thus, “Wall-dos”.  There is physical proof….the wall still exists today and it has been toured and filmed with journalists who do not just rely totally on phony hearsay.
    The article falsely tries to establish that the Bebe created the term Waldo as a euphemism for somebody who is an odd, awkward, goofy and out-of-place person.  Unfortunately for the Bebes, these deceptive statements, and focus, point right to even more existing physical evidence proving that the Bebe’s claims are untrue.  The term “A Waldo” as an odd person came from Comedian Buddy Hackett who was around long before all of us punks.  A few of us can remember Hackett on the old Tonight Show with Johnny Carson (in Buddy’s funny voice) saying “You’re A Waldo, Shecky”.  He was telling a story referring to legendary Las Vegas comedian Shecky Green, another old timer of an earlier hipster generation.   One of the Waldos wrote a personal letter to comedian Shecky Green living in the Palm Springs area at the time, asking him to elaborate.  Shecky wrote back a letter explaining that Buddy would call him “A Waldo”, as an odd and goofy person, and that Buddy got that from the cartoon series Mr. Magoo.  Mr. Magoo’s odd and awkward nephew was Waldo.  (Look it up for yourselves!)  The personal letter from Shecky is in the Waldo’s safe deposit vault and is available for inspection by official Press.  The letter is not only signed and postmarked with the proper addresses, the entire letter is written out in Shecky’s own personal handwriting.  Conversely, the Bebes have absolutely no proof whatsoever of any of their statements and claims.  Buddy Hackett and Shecky Green surely did not get the term “A Waldo” from Bebe.

    The wider public is familiar with the usage of “Waldo” in the same context in the Where’s  Waldo books, which denoted an odd and out-of-place person.  The object was to find the odd Waldo amongst a sea of normal people.

    Furthermore, as the article very falsely suggests, the Waldos were not “uncoordinated” and “non athletic”; hundreds of people who knew them would be able to confirm that.  The Waldos were good athletes.   They were not the stars or captains of the teams, but they were certainly not the slow ones.  Even today, many of the Waldos are extremely fit, running or mountain biking up Marin County’s large mountains weekly.

    Over and over again, a common theme in the article– and in the Bebe group’s member’s very own words– is that the Bebe was a major “prankster.”  Students, friends, roommates, co-workers, girlfriends, and neighbors would NOT deny that he is the ultimate bullshitter of all bullshitters.  Even a teacher that was interviewed for the Bebes article admitted that Bebe was a prankster-bullshitter causing staff meetings.  With any strangers the bull is especially fierce and fast.  Most importantly though, nobody can ever know whether anything coming out his mouth is fact or fiction, which is not a trustworthy or reliable circumstance for any credible journalistic interviewer.  The credibility trail ends instantly and there is never any sure proof of anything.
    Some readers here may not be aware of earlier articles detailing multiple pieces of evidence that the Waldos have to support their stories.  This includes multiple pieces of early 70’s U.S. Postmarked dated mail between the Waldos which refers to “Waldo(s)” and “420” in marijuana context.  Some of the mail is international.  Nobody on earth can produce any solid proof of any earlier usage of 420, including the Bebes. One letter refers to the Waldo’s connection to the Grateful Dead, which was confirmed directly by the Huffington Post with Dead bassist Phil Lesh.  The Waldos have a batik tie-die style 420 flag which was produced by a friend Patty in her San Rafael High School arts and crafts class in the 71-72 school year.  There are official 1971-1972 San Rafael High School School Record Transcripts that have been obtained as support for the Waldos which marks the class where she created the 420 flag.  The flag can be approximately dated by forensic labs or auction houses.  This is in addition to Patty’s postmarked early 70’s letters with references to the flag.  There is even an original 1970’s San Rafael High School Red and White School Newspaper with student reference to 420.

    What do the Bebes have? Nothing, nothing and more nothing to substantiate anything.  Not one shred of proof.  In interviews, the Bebes keep referring to reel to reel tapes suggesting that they would prove 420 usage that would predate the Waldos.  The 420 Magazine journalist interviewing Bebes states in the writer’s own exact words, “When asked if anyone possibly had any of the reel to reel prank calls and/or random audio recordings of the Bebe with 420; Bebe lost all of his, Wild Du’s were stolen and Bone Boy’s mysteriously disappeared.”  Anybody today could make a new reel to reel tape and say it was created at any time in the past.

    The various interviews with Bebes include some true things about the Bebes and their adventures, but they also include some blatantly false statements about the Waldos. Two of the Dixon brothers said that the “Waldos have admitted that the Bebes coined 420”.  These statements are 100% total and absolute LIES.  The Waldos have never ever said any such thing at any time.
    In another Bebes interview, Thorgy or Thorgersen claims that “Waldo Steve Capper is an opportunist.” That Thorgy statement is certainly another lie with no merit; Capper has not received any money for anything having to do with 420 in over 41 years.  Forty one years speaks for itself.  If he were an an opportunist, he would have done so by now.  The only reason his name is in the press is because he has an office in the city downtown district where Waldos are able to coordinate with press asking for information or those press asking to view the pieces of evidence proof.  Never did Capper seek any individual credit.  All of the Waldos have homes and/or are financially stable; there are no pressing or financial-opportunistic needs.  They have had physical evidence proof of 420 and contacts with media news organizations for decades and could have taken advantage of it more extensively.

    The reverse is more likely– that some Bebes are in need and that these sudden lies are economically motivated.  The news stories about the Waldos have already been in the news for fourteen years and the Bebes have been well aware of them.  The Waldos have been researched and covered by credible news organizations with high journalistic standards, such as Los Angeles Times, NY Times, Playboy, Reuters News Service, Esquire, Sacramento Bee, Huffington Post, Wired Magazine, and High Times.  That the Bebes are fully aware of it for fourteen years, and just now come out with stories rife with their memories of convenience when it comes to 420 origination, raises red flags about the timing.  The Waldos certainly have sympathy and compassion for anybody that might be having hard times or economic difficulty, but telling outright lies about the Waldos is not a spirited or easy way out.

    Much of the Bebes article discusses the many other phrases, nicknames and sounds that the Bebe made up.  That isn’t any proof of 420 inception, or that the Bebes were any more apt to make up 420 than the Waldos.  The article never discusses that the Waldos group itself was extremely prolific since the early 70’s, and continues to be, with hundreds of original funny and unique catch phrases, nicknames, odd noises, antics, slang terms, etc..  420 was only the tip of the iceberg of the entire Waldo culture. A few years ago, the Waldos put together an entire Waldo dictionary of the hundreds of these vocal varieties.  They already had a Waldo420 website up since the late 1990’s with some of these phrases– fourteen years before the Bebes article.

    Lastly, a basic principle of journalistic integrity is missing in the Bebes story; in a hasty rush to print, 420 Magazine printed nothing but total hearsay about the Waldos and never talked with the Waldos themselves.  The Waldos can accept that the Bebes article may have been more of a fun attempt at playful sensationalism.   The Bebes article mentioned that all the Bebes interviewed told the same story.  They failed to mention that they interviewed Bebes, including a fellow Bebe in Southern California named Craig (aka Saundyman), that could not verify or confirm Bebes 420 invention claim or earlier usage than the Waldo’s.  Craig did NOT tell the exact same story.  They conveniently left those interview matters out.  Again, the Waldos understand all the fun for 420 Magazine that goes along with being playfully sensationalistic, if not accurate.  In good spirit, The Waldos wish Rob Griffin and 420 Magazine nothing but the best of luck and remain open to cordial dialogue

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